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		<title>By: Turkey</title>
		<link>http://www.robchipman.net/october-stats-package/comment-page-1#comment-125185</link>
		<dc:creator>Turkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, is the boilerplate at the bottom (about how good Realtors(TM) are to the economy) routine, or is it new? I don&#039;t recall seeing it before and a quick look doesn&#039;t show it in older stats packages. I may be getting the wrong ones.
 
Is this related to the battle with the competition bureau? Care to speculate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, is the boilerplate at the bottom (about how good Realtors(TM) are to the economy) routine, or is it new? I don&#8217;t recall seeing it before and a quick look doesn&#8217;t show it in older stats packages. I may be getting the wrong ones.<br />
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Is this related to the battle with the competition bureau? Care to speculate?</p>
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		<title>By: FTBuyer</title>
		<link>http://www.robchipman.net/october-stats-package/comment-page-1#comment-123052</link>
		<dc:creator>FTBuyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I think gold prices are more of a worry than RE. Seriously, what real value does gold actually have? You can&#039;t sleep in it, it doesn&#039;t keep you warm, you can&#039;t eat it, etc. I&#039;d rather &quot;invest&quot; in RE than gold any day, at least it&#039;ll keep the rain off my back. I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised if gold prices crashed some time soon as it&#039;s perceived safety as an investment is undermined by the fact that it doesn&#039;t really offer much other than being rare and shiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think gold prices are more of a worry than RE. Seriously, what real value does gold actually have? You can&#8217;t sleep in it, it doesn&#8217;t keep you warm, you can&#8217;t eat it, etc. I&#8217;d rather &#8220;invest&#8221; in RE than gold any day, at least it&#8217;ll keep the rain off my back. I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised if gold prices crashed some time soon as it&#8217;s perceived safety as an investment is undermined by the fact that it doesn&#8217;t really offer much other than being rare and shiny.</p>
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		<title>By: vomitingdog</title>
		<link>http://www.robchipman.net/october-stats-package/comment-page-1#comment-123006</link>
		<dc:creator>vomitingdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloria,
 
Nice to see someone new on the blogs... as for your very valid questions... don&#039;t ask me I have completely given up trying to understand this market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria,<br />
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Nice to see someone new on the blogs&#8230; as for your very valid questions&#8230; don&#8217;t ask me I have completely given up trying to understand this market.</p>
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		<title>By: Purp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP 28 - Interesting, heartbreaking articles.  Thanks for posting all these thoughtful links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP 28 &#8211; Interesting, heartbreaking articles.  Thanks for posting all these thoughtful links.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;I just don’t get it… why the rent is so low, or why the sale price is so high?&#8221; &#171; Vancouver Real Estate Anecdote Archive</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;I just don’t get it… why the rent is so low, or why the sale price is so high?&#8221; &#171; Vancouver Real Estate Anecdote Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 2009 &#183; Leave a Comment  Gloria, at robchipman.net, on 16 Nov 2009, 9:27 am, discovers that Vancouver RE price to rent ratios make no sense. The unit that she describes has a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 2009 &middot; Leave a Comment  Gloria, at robchipman.net, on 16 Nov 2009, 9:27 am, discovers that Vancouver RE price to rent ratios make no sense. The unit that she describes has a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Híppos Purrós</title>
		<link>http://www.robchipman.net/october-stats-package/comment-page-1#comment-122906</link>
		<dc:creator>Híppos Purrós</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW/14...  it would take an essay (rather than a few anecdotals or aggregated heuristics) to properly answer your question... However - for now, at least - a short answer will have to suffice.  Let me put it this way, as bad your recent &#039;boots on the ground&#039;/&#039;drive-by&#039;  impressions of the FraserValley were/are...  things are comparatively much worse in the Interior.  As for the GVRD, when the &#039;cheap money&#039;/politically expedient price supports disappear so will most of the recent demand...  Certain micro-markets in the core will likely continue to buck that trend - but only in so far as exogenous demand (offshore/safe haven seeking) continues apace (not - necessarily - a given)...  A recent RE piece appearing in the GeorgiaStraight was quite revealing (unintentionally, I suspect) in that regard... in so far as two of the town&#039;s largest players tacitly suggest the YVR market is being driven by external demand.

&quot;[Cameron] McNeill also claimed that Vancouver is the second most densely populated city in North America behind New York. He believes that our compact urban environment, coupled with a stable financial system, makes Vancouver a safe place to buy. In his eyes, this makes the city “the Swiss bank of international real estate”. ....

and....

[BobRennie]...  “I don’t believe that anyone ran back to Turin or Lillehammer or Salt Lake City…to buy a secondary residence or to move the family to safety or to move some money to safety. Vancouver is on the map. We’re a world city. We’re a brand.” 
http://tinyurl.com/yhou98j

Which brings us back to GlobalMacro effects... hence, to prognosticate on YVR - we really have to pay attention to what&#039;s going on in the wider world and particularly in LosEstadosUnidos...  In this regard, the following pieces are illustrative of the true &#039;state of the union&#039; - and the first one especially so...  (&#039;Moment of Zen&#039; worthy - in the blackest sense)...   The last piece, from Politico, is important in so far as it highlights contemporary developments/socially corrosive trends in the American polity (frequently mirrored in the GreatWhiteNorth) with severe medium-term implications (when populations lose faith in political actors/institutions/regimes - the backlash frequently takes the form of &#039;politics by other means&#039;).

[NY TIMES] Money Trickles North as Mexicans Help [U.S.] Relatives ...
http://tinyurl.com/yjn83qs

[MotherJones] The New Dust Bowl...
http://tinyurl.com/yas2os3

[Politico] Parties cash in on hot issues...
http://tinyurl.com/ya9pyhd

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW/14&#8230;  it would take an essay (rather than a few anecdotals or aggregated heuristics) to properly answer your question&#8230; However &#8211; for now, at least &#8211; a short answer will have to suffice.  Let me put it this way, as bad your recent &#8216;boots on the ground&#8217;/'drive-by&#8217;  impressions of the FraserValley were/are&#8230;  things are comparatively much worse in the Interior.  As for the GVRD, when the &#8216;cheap money&#8217;/politically expedient price supports disappear so will most of the recent demand&#8230;  Certain micro-markets in the core will likely continue to buck that trend &#8211; but only in so far as exogenous demand (offshore/safe haven seeking) continues apace (not &#8211; necessarily &#8211; a given)&#8230;  A recent RE piece appearing in the GeorgiaStraight was quite revealing (unintentionally, I suspect) in that regard&#8230; in so far as two of the town&#8217;s largest players tacitly suggest the YVR market is being driven by external demand.</p>
<p>&#8220;[Cameron] McNeill also claimed that Vancouver is the second most densely populated city in North America behind New York. He believes that our compact urban environment, coupled with a stable financial system, makes Vancouver a safe place to buy. In his eyes, this makes the city “the Swiss bank of international real estate”. &#8230;.</p>
<p>and&#8230;.</p>
<p>[BobRennie]&#8230;  “I don’t believe that anyone ran back to Turin or Lillehammer or Salt Lake City…to buy a secondary residence or to move the family to safety or to move some money to safety. Vancouver is on the map. We’re a world city. We’re a brand.”<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhou98j" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhou98j</a></p>
<p>Which brings us back to GlobalMacro effects&#8230; hence, to prognosticate on YVR &#8211; we really have to pay attention to what&#8217;s going on in the wider world and particularly in LosEstadosUnidos&#8230;  In this regard, the following pieces are illustrative of the true &#8217;state of the union&#8217; &#8211; and the first one especially so&#8230;  (&#8216;Moment of Zen&#8217; worthy &#8211; in the blackest sense)&#8230;   The last piece, from Politico, is important in so far as it highlights contemporary developments/socially corrosive trends in the American polity (frequently mirrored in the GreatWhiteNorth) with severe medium-term implications (when populations lose faith in political actors/institutions/regimes &#8211; the backlash frequently takes the form of &#8216;politics by other means&#8217;).</p>
<p>[NY TIMES] Money Trickles North as Mexicans Help [U.S.] Relatives &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjn83qs" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjn83qs</a></p>
<p>[MotherJones] The New Dust Bowl&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yas2os3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yas2os3</a></p>
<p>[Politico] Parties cash in on hot issues&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/ya9pyhd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ya9pyhd</a></p>
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		<title>By: Turkey</title>
		<link>http://www.robchipman.net/october-stats-package/comment-page-1#comment-122899</link>
		<dc:creator>Turkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloria/16,
 
Keep in mind that the asking rent was probably calculated from cash-flow considerations (i.e. mortgage payments) and not market-value rent. You can ask whatever rent you like, but you may not get it -- so the gap between rent and sale price may be larger than it appears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria/16,<br />
 <br />
Keep in mind that the asking rent was probably calculated from cash-flow considerations (i.e. mortgage payments) and not market-value rent. You can ask whatever rent you like, but you may not get it &#8212; so the gap between rent and sale price may be larger than it appears.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VD @16,
Luxurious &quot;O2&quot; on Davie / Denman St. has several units for sale and one of them (2bdr/2bthr, 975 sq.ft)  is both for sale and for rent. The sale price is 975k, and the rent is $2500 per month.  I just don&#039;t get it.... why the rent is so low, or why the sale price is so high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VD @16,<br />
Luxurious &#8220;O2&#8243; on Davie / Denman St. has several units for sale and one of them (2bdr/2bthr, 975 sq.ft)  is both for sale and for rent. The sale price is 975k, and the rent is $2500 per month.  I just don&#8217;t get it&#8230;. why the rent is so low, or why the sale price is so high?</p>
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		<title>By: Purp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,  thanks for posting the data.

I&#039;m pretty sure I used to be able to access it here: http://www.rebgv.org/news

At any rate, it&#039;s useful information, far better than the measly graphs they put on the website which only show 2 year trends and make it really hard to compare different areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,  thanks for posting the data.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I used to be able to access it here: <a href="http://www.rebgv.org/news" rel="nofollow">http://www.rebgv.org/news</a></p>
<p>At any rate, it&#8217;s useful information, far better than the measly graphs they put on the website which only show 2 year trends and make it really hard to compare different areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust Rob more than her...but I must admit...I&#039;d think about buying something from her...any thoughts on this top ten list?

http://www.buyingcalgary.com/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust Rob more than her&#8230;but I must admit&#8230;I&#8217;d think about buying something from her&#8230;any thoughts on this top ten list?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buyingcalgary.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buyingcalgary.com/blog/</a></p>
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